Ayyyeeee... Painting Jam time once again :)
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Skyman asks via PM:
"Hello,
I have a question for a varnish; which one do you use? I'm painting the Sanguinary Guards at this moment, your one is an inspiration for me and I would try to get such good final results as your ones.
Regards,
SkymaN"
My answer:
I don't varnish my models at all as i don't use them for gaming, i guess that is the difference. When i use matte or satin or gloss varnish i do it only at places i want to have such a look of the material difference to other areas... I know stupid answer, sorry, but i don't find more to say. Maybe some of the gamers reading here could help out? I have no idea how to seal models anymore and what to use to do so - HELP?
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Paolo asks via email:
My answer:
"Hi Jarhead,
So, I'm in a big trouble with my next entry for IT GD (Dark Angels ancient dreddy) because I have no idea how I can paint the mole of details, I tried gold NMM but it's too.... "yellow" and dont' helps to create "atmosphere" (you're a Master in that way). Some friends suggest true metal with large rust weathering..
That's the link for the realtet thread on Legiopictorum. If you have time I really appreciate every little suggestion."
Omky... i guess i could help you must with a brainstorm. Nothing special, just following the link and making a 10 Minutes Massive Brainstorm on things i might feel... only suggestions, not meant to be right, let's go:
Ok, i went to page 7 to the last photo...
I won't bring a yellow NMM to it either... some bronze tone would look good i guess. Tin Bitz, Brazzen Brass, some final highlights finished with some soft Model Colour Sepia glazes and maybe some soft greenish/tourquise oxidation... TMM or NMM, both could look cool... keep it dark not to shiny because of all the blue extravaganz areas could lose attraction for the viewer if there is too much blink blink around in the metals...
Something like this, but a bit more bronzish!
I hope my idea could somehow help, but i am not sure... i am only a big Gorilla telling you his mind :)
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Short and precious Painting Jam, there will be better times again :)
Keep on happy painting!
Regards
Roman
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Back when I gamed, I generally didn't varnish models, and they generally held up pretty well, with only the occasional chip that I had to repair. Of course, this was with about one game a week on average, so I'm not sure how they would have held up to heavier gaming use, but I don't think you really need to varnish models for protection as long as you treat them decently. However, if you really want to varnish them, the recipe I've heard from other gamers is spray on gloss varnish followed by spray on matte varnish (like Testor's dullcote). The gloss varnish protects better, but the matte finish looks better. You might have to do a couple of coats of matte to kill the shine.
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The dark angels ancient dread is looking pretty sweet so far. I think the real key to tie in the metals with the rest is going to be lots of weathering: plenty of nicks and dents in the metal, followed by dirt and/or corrosion (depending on whether you are painting it as a metal susceptible to corrosion). Obviously this could work with both tmm and nmm, and with any choice of metal color.
I have tried quite a few varnishes and they always ruin my models.
ReplyDeleteRecently I discovered a professional brand varnish that's designed to be painted on... Liquitex Matte Varnish. It works incredibly well and I've got a blog post regarding the stuff:
http://nplusplus.blogspot.com/search/label/varnish
Regarding the varnishing for display purposes, I use Vallejo's Matte varnish, the brush on type (in the eyedroper bottle). It's been fantastic so far, and having the same type of Gloss varnish allows you to mix the two for various effects. I guess for gaming, some spray on varnish is better. I've heard great things about Army Painter's spray varnish, but haven't tested it yet... Hope this helps.
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I use Army Painter Matte Varnish Spray and it's fabulous compared to other brands I tried out...always shake the can properly and you shouldn't have much problems :)
ReplyDeleteFor some of my tin miniatures I use the matt varnish from Marabu. It's "Marabu-Mattlack" (it looks like they don't have a english product name). It's not the cheapest one but I got good results with it so I will stay on it for a while.
ReplyDeleteFor my plastic models I don't use a varnish spray or something.